The lads hit the half way mark of their inaugural season of These Lads Are Mental podcast. A show about normalising the topic of mental health in a light hearted fashion, with expert guests, everyday people and some laughs along the way. Sure isn't that what life is all about?

Hopefully, one day in the not too distant future, we can talk about mental health just like we would anything else in our everyday lives. That's our goal.

Neil and Gary welcome batyr (small 'b' yes) CEO, Nic Brown to this week's show. batyr is a charity that specialises in helping our youth have more positive conversations regarding their mental health. In this episode you'll laugh, learn and understand how to make 'macro changes with micro moves' as Nic calls it and how they're giving a voice to the elephant in the room.